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If only Secret Six was a weekly. 
21st-May-2009 12:21 pm
full of shit
You know what's depressing?

Getting the weekly email from my comics shop and going through the list of 'just arrived', only to be greeted by a number of titles that I've cancelled for being not very good. That's what's depressing.

This week the number is especially large; Angel, which I finally gave up on when After the Fall completed and the title continued to be complicated in that 'not trying very hard to be coherent' way; Battle for the Cowl which I bought one title of because of the possibility of Batwoman, and was disappointed; and Green Arrow/Black Canary, which I also ditched because Andrew Kreisburg hates women.

So what am I left with? Jack of Fables. And no, I'm not in a hurry to go and get this title. I've been reading Jack since the beginning, and it's always been irreverent, tongue in cheek and honest about its flaws. Then the Great Fables Crossover happened and all the badness of Fables - a title I was just giving another go - all of that is back, and all over the other titles to the point where I don't much feel like reading anything Willingham writes right now.

I don't even know what happened last issue because as I turned the pages I was still reeling from the rape scene that took place in the opening few page, and the fun exciting way it was written, making it obvious that we're supposed to be cheering on the fun, likeable rapist and laughing at how he ignores the victim's requests for him to stop. Oh, and just in case you're not going to read it (I don't recommend reading it) and don't mind spoilers, the victim had previously been subject to slut-shaming in this very title.

So the only reason for me to go into the shop today is to ask them not to sell me the one title they have saved for me? I can phone for that.

And next week it's just Runaways, which may or may not be awful. It's time I caught up on Wonder Woman, The Boys or Hellboy, really.
 
Opinions 
21st-May-2009 12:19 pm (UTC)
The last arc of The Boys was spectacularly unpleasant even by Garth Ennis standards; I can see it potentially triggering 'hates women' issues even though plenty of males suffer horribly too.
One of my favourite current comics (Captain Britain) has just been cancelled, and another (Moon Knight) is oddly absent from the new solicits, so I feel your pain.
21st-May-2009 12:35 pm (UTC)
I know nothing about Garth Ennis except that some random guy on OKCupid said it was good. I figure I can have a read of his stuff and decide if I like him before I commit any money.
21st-May-2009 12:39 pm (UTC)
Oh! If you've not read anything of his, then the best starting point is probably his run on Hellblazer, or Preacher. Unless you have a particular fondness for war stories, he's done a lot of those too. The Boys is part of a recurring current in his work where, as a man who doesn't like superheroes but works in US comics, he writes scabrous anti-superhero stories. They're good gruesome fun, but not really his finest work.
21st-May-2009 12:55 pm (UTC)
Actually, I think I have a collection of Hellblazer somewhere. I could indeed read that first!
21st-May-2009 04:10 pm (UTC)
The main Ennis run goes from Dangerous Habits to Rake at the Gates of Hell, though he comes back for the self-contained (and less good) Son of Man. Plenty of other writers have done good runs on the title, a few have been poor, but Ennis was definitely the best.
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21st-May-2009 04:14 pm (UTC)
The protagonist's gender politics aren't exactly up to date, but I think it's very clear from early in the series that he's not being held up as an uncomplicated role model - much the same as can be said for Constantine.
21st-May-2009 12:29 pm (UTC)
I gave up on Angel, too. I suppose I'll pick it up if/when they bring Illyria back, but last I heard she was going to cross over randomly elsewhere before appearing in the Angel comics again.
21st-May-2009 12:40 pm (UTC)
It's just all a bit blegh right now. If Illyria turns up in Buffy, I'll let you know.
21st-May-2009 12:56 pm (UTC)
The interesting thing is that I am enjoying the Fables crossover more than any other Fables story in a while, despite not really liking Jack of Fables much - I just cannot stand Jack and can't see buying his misadventures monthly. The way Jack and Rose was handled was repulsive, but it doesn't seem to have put me off the rest of the story. Clearly a case of YMMV, but I get why this is the case.

As for Battle for the Cowl...yeah, give it a miss. It ends up where we knew it would in terms of the news Bat-temp, but it's a pretty bland story and it's all set-up. Should have skipped it and saved my money for the Batbooks I plan to sample next month.

Instead, you should read Battle for the Cow!
21st-May-2009 01:04 pm (UTC)
Oracle: The Cure was rubbish too. The only BotC worth reading has been Secret Six. And those scans don't even include 'Doll explaining that he'd make a great Robin because he's "not averse to a crowbar in the cranium"
21st-May-2009 01:14 pm (UTC)
Oh, Ragdoll...you are so wacky.

I continue to count down the days (months, alas) till the first Secret Six TPB comes out. I made a promise to myself to wait and read it this way, and I am going to stick with it.

But I think that maybe I picked the wrong book for this waiting game. Curse you, DC, for not publishing TPBs overnight like Marvel does!!

21st-May-2009 01:19 pm (UTC)
It will be worth the wait, I assure you.

I wonder if DC realise that by not bringing out trades straight away, they're making it harder for people to switch from trades to floppies, because even if you've read every available trade for a title, you're still not caught up enough to buy the next issue.
21st-May-2009 01:48 pm (UTC)
I was still reeling from the rape scene that took place in the opening few page, and the fun exciting way it was written, making it obvious that we're supposed to be cheering on the fun, likeable rapist and laughing at how he ignores the victim's requests for him to stop.

I may very well be ill. This is written by Willingham?



Last week was a good week, there's nothing for me to get excited about right now ... really, until June.
21st-May-2009 02:53 pm (UTC)
I was still reeling from the rape scene that took place in the opening few page, and the fun exciting way it was written, making it obvious that we're supposed to be cheering on the fun, likeable rapist and laughing at how he ignores the victim's requests for him to stop.

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21st-May-2009 11:09 pm (UTC)
I thought it was a kind of repulsive scene, but it didn't look to me at all like the author was cheering on Jack or expecting us to.
22nd-May-2009 03:49 pm (UTC)
My current problem with Willingham is that he has to make Jack bad, or worse then any of the regular Fables, and well...you've seen his hamfisted ways.

Sadly not too much difference from his old Elemental days.

And yes, I agree with the title. I wish Secret Six was weekly. Not just because of this or the last issues, but the fact she honestly writes people. Sadly, my comic folder is looking closer and closer to being JUST Secret Six. And Rucka writing Batwoman...blech.
22nd-May-2009 03:59 pm (UTC)
Secret Six is the title that makes me go "YAY SECRET SIX!" everytime I see it on the 'new arrivals' list - always has, since the very first issue, and the last two issues have been like Christmas. I suspect Detective Comics is going to solicit that reaction the first couple of times, and Red Star, of course, but that's biannual at the moment.

I'm just getting to the point in my relationship with comics that I'm realising writers are more reliable clues for enjoyment of a title than characters. So that's a real impetus for catching up on Wonder Woman and adding that to my list.

Meanwhile, I'm tempted to drop all the Fables titles again and be honest with myself that it's about the way they write women, epic world building aside.
22nd-May-2009 04:19 pm (UTC)
It is. Secret Six actually coming out brightens my day in the fashion of getting that really good sweet thing and knowing that it's going to be good.

And yeah, the last two issue have been just as good as anything she's written if not better. I love that she has made me like Catman, Bane, and Deadshot. Scandal, Ragdoll, and Jeanette are her own creations and to be honest just as worthy a character that I've seen. But the fact she can make me like or even side with Bane, Deadshot or Catman? She adds humor, warmth, and just enough humanity that doesn't make me want to puke, remind me they are still killers but that they aren't mustache twirling villains. That is a mark of fantastic writing.

And as for writers, I have to agree. I tend to give more to that because over time I've seen too much bad and good. Sadly, still seeing far too much bad writing even from good writers I enjoy and enjoyed works from.

And for Fables? I figure to just quit now. Like you said, Jack is a irreverant jackass who has no plan, no nothing and was, for me, a fun read. The whole Red Rose going "NO!, ...yes, NOOOO, yes." was a disgusting point. It enforced again what I've seen but added that he had no problems that he writes women as basically pining for the heroic man and basically gets down on her knees as he arrives OR is just there to get fucked and be thrown away because she's obviously weak and needs a true man to make her whole.
27th-May-2009 01:46 pm (UTC)
Anonymouse
I just went through a recent dose of "blah" at the comic book store this weekend too. For whatever reason, I couldn't find a single thing that attracted my attention. I have to order the remaining 5 Wonder Woman issues before my subscription starts arriving at my door, but other than that, there was nothing there for me to read. Like... at all. Much as I like Joss Whedon, I couldn't get in to Buffy. And much as I would like to read the Green Arrow/Black Canary series, flipping through the current issue just left me feelng... Meh.

I went with some books on theory and comic books (none that I actually wanted were in either the shop or in the bookstore). Guess it just wasn't my day.

I will, however, be picking up Secret Six. I've heard way too many good reviews to ignore it.

~Dawn
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