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On messaging, social networking, and that no one app is perfect 
8th-Oct-2009 01:39 pm
shiny, thing
Today's Nemi cartoon, from the  metro and daily_nemi


I do believe I had this EXACT SAME conversation the other day with someone who claimed they were making a sequel to District 9, and that they'd made sequels to Aliens and Jurassic Park

I am - horror of horrors - actually updating LJ from the update journal page right now, for a number of reasons, which boil down to one reason. I'm on Eddeee the tinyputer as I try to sort out working from home, and I haven't installed SeMagic. I'm not even sure I'm going to: the  update journal page is much better than it was when I first started using LJ.

It's not that I've fallen out with SeMagic, so much as not wanting to install a lot of software very quickly on my new computer. I'm still tweaking Firefox to be as I want it and I haven't even bothered downloading Thundrbird of configuring Outlook. I'm also tweaking my email usage so I can restrict myself to two Gmail accounts for my two "identities" - which arent' all that separate, come to think of it. As far as balancing on and offline personas, I'm much more Green Arrow than Batman. Expect a post when I've figured that one oout, as it'll knock my current mutliple-gmail usage out of the water, I'm sure.

I'm also technically updating using Shareaholic, because part of my 'tweaking' involves finding a tool that will help me use internet sharing the way I want to. For a while a few weeks back I was using Yoono, which has an excellent sharing tool for Twitter and Facebook. Trouble is, Yoono is a massive memory hog, and so not my friend. Instead, thanks to Lesley, I've found myself falling for Digsby as a messaging and social network tool. If it had multi user chat support, it'd nearly be perfect for that - it doesn't, so I'm back to Trillian on my desktop, which is a great chat client but its social networking interface is unusable, for me: when I'm at that computer I just don't follow Twitter.

Yoono's sharing tool is great because:
  1. it can post to both places with one click, or to either.
  2. it allows a choice between posting a link to the page, or posting an object (picture, video, &c) to wherever you're posting
  3. it moved objects (pictures and video) to facebook or yoono.com, thus avoiding hotlink issues.
I would have liked Delicious support (and LOVED Livejournal support), but sadly, the memory issues of Yoono, and the fact that it doesn't support Facebook chat or multi user conferencing, make it unusable for the most part.

On the other hand, Shareaholic has support for a much wider range of sites, includin LJ and Delicious, but you can only post one at a time - meaning that Nemi cartoon will probably only make my facebook and twitter feed when the LJ updates to both of them and if people can be bothered to click (hi, people on Facebook and Twitter!)

What tools/applications/extensions do you use for sharing? Am I askin to much to be able to post to everywhere on one click?

And SHOULD I have typed this all into my Dreamwidth update page to update both at the same time? So many questions.

Opinions 
8th-Oct-2009 01:22 pm (UTC)
There will be no sequel to District 9.

REPEAT THERE WILL BE NO SEQUEL TO DISTRICT 9
8th-Oct-2009 02:17 pm (UTC)
Oh yes there will.

Why? Because it made money.
8th-Oct-2009 02:18 pm (UTC)
YOU'RE JUST NOT IN DENIAL ENOUGH
8th-Oct-2009 02:20 pm (UTC)
You should learn to enjoy worthless crap. There's so much of it!! :D
8th-Oct-2009 02:22 pm (UTC)
I love this philosophy.
8th-Oct-2009 01:36 pm (UTC)
Sometimes I use Firefox to log into livejournal.com, sometimes I use Links. I'm crazy, I'm unpredictable, I'm a Ba-tampte garlic dill pickle!
8th-Oct-2009 02:00 pm (UTC)
I've had the Nemi chat above with many friends. They consider me insane, I consider them very ...imaginative.
8th-Oct-2009 02:18 pm (UTC)
Hell, I didn't even know it was possible to update LJ from anywhere other than LJ!
8th-Oct-2009 02:27 pm (UTC)
Perhaps ironically given how much time I spend thinking about online spaces and social network interaction design, I spend a lot of time with web interfaces. I never really felt that semagic provided me many options I wanted to use, and I don't really like splitting update streams (sometimes shared, sometimes separate Twitter and FaceBook updates, for instance). That's just me, though.

So... yeah. I'm no help. I happen to like most web interfaces. Or, perhaps it would be more accurate to say that I tend not to use applications that have bad web interfaces.

Musingly,
Ana
8th-Oct-2009 02:37 pm (UTC)
You like the Twitter web interface? I don't.

And I use FB because of the society, not because of the appalling web interface.
8th-Oct-2009 02:40 pm (UTC)
I don't know if I'd say I "like" the Twitter web interface. It's workable, and clearly a case of massive trade-offs on hundreds of fronts. There are a number of major things it doesn't do for various reasons that good Twitter clients do: scheduled updating (no one wants to hit F5 to see if anyone's said anything) and automatic URL-shortening (Twitter probably can't/shouldn't endorse a service themselves) spring to mind. But it's workable. It does what I need it to. And it doesn't get in the way.

As for FB, I understand that one. Though, perhaps ironically, I never did end up in a social circle that used it as a major coordinating tool. Though that's an interesting chicken-egg problem.

Thinky-face,
Ana
8th-Oct-2009 03:13 pm (UTC)
I don't use anything else. I want to post textual content from time to time, and LJ facilitates this. None of the other crap that keeps popping up provides me any use whatsoever.

We've had RSS for years. If people want to read what I have to say from the walled garden they've decided to lock themselves into, they can still read that.
8th-Oct-2009 03:18 pm (UTC)
You make a very good point. :D I'm about as touching as many people as possible, though, whether they want me to or not.
8th-Oct-2009 05:59 pm (UTC)
This doesn't really address your question, and I know nothing about your particular model of computer, but it might be worth checking out whether or not you can increase the amount of RAM on the netbook. It's pretty cheap, and (again, depending on your model), usually pretty easy to install. On the downside, it might increase battery consumption and heat generation, but it was worth it for me. There are also other tricks you can do to speed up the computer, but RAM is generally a good start.
8th-Oct-2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
I am definitely planning to double his RAM to 2Gb, but as Firefox with Yoono hits 300Mb, I still don't think it's worth it.
8th-Oct-2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
I've never used it myself, and I may be missing the point of what you're trying to do, but is this any help: http://www.8hands.com/ ?

Also, my quick search turned up this: http://lifehacker.com/5336382/digsby-joins-the-dark-side-uses-your-pc-to-make-money . I don't know how true any of it is or if it still applies, but ...
8th-Oct-2009 06:37 pm (UTC)
I have, of course, got that option turned off, but I might look at 8hands, thanks!
8th-Oct-2009 06:39 pm (UTC)
No problem. It's always fun to contribute when I've got little to no idea what I'm talking about!
8th-Oct-2009 11:21 pm (UTC)
Meanwhile, I'm over here in the corner, tormented by the fact that every time I see that icon I have a moment where I'm thinking it's, not Red Dwarf, but a gleeful Arnold Schwarzenegger in a white tux.


Why does my brain do these things to me?
9th-Oct-2009 07:53 am (UTC)
...I have no idea what to do with you.
9th-Oct-2009 07:26 am (UTC) - About memory usage...
Anonymouse
So, if you add up Firefox without Yoono plus all what it took to replace Yoono, doesn't that amount to more than what Firefox plus Yoono was taking ?
Anyway, I'd feel bad to have bought a computer with 2Gb if programs were not using it :)
9th-Oct-2009 07:55 am (UTC) - Re: About memory usage...
Nope, I don't think so.

And don't forget that it you've got lots of programs that eat memory, you can always - close them. Or let a heavy memory program sort itself out while in other places. If all the memory's being used by one application, then that's the only application you can play with and when it's slow, the whole computer is.
9th-Oct-2009 01:03 pm (UTC) - have you tried Minggl
Anonymouse
they don't have chat yet, but the social network integration includes Inbox and a unified and searchable contacts list
9th-Oct-2009 01:21 pm (UTC) - Re: have you tried Minggl
Ooh looks good. Does it have link-sharing support?
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