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23rd-May-2007 11:33 am
Part of me wants to write a post that goes: "Shut up Mohinder!
Evolution doesn't work like that!
Genetics doesn't work like that!
Natural Selection doesn't work like that!
Fitness doesn't work like that!
Genetic fingerprinting doesn't work like that!
The Human Genome Project doesn't work like that!
DNA Nucleotides don't work like that!
Red blood cells don't work like that!
Sibling donors don't work like that!
Antibodies don't work like that!
You keep using these words. THEY DO NOT MEAN WHAT YOU THINK THEY MEAN!"

And publicly begging Tim Kring to get just one science consultant on the show because everything that sprouts from Mohinder's pretty pretty mouth is Bad Science. And it's dangerous Bad Science as well. ("We know you have this one gene because you ticked a box once when having bloodwork done." - yeah, that's not a going to further genetic 'privacy' hysteria, is it?) But what's the point? Heroes is not about science. It's never been about science, and trying to make it so would ruin it. I just wish Kring had used plot hooks that weren't such blatant factual lies.

OK, I liked the last episode, I did. I liked it, plot-wise, and it gave me fuzzies, but the resolution was... weak, I think the best answer is. I mean, how dare the writers reduce Niki to a Claire-level prize whose only purpose in the long run is to give the hero strength (literally)? Are they all that stupid that they must take turns at doing him in (was it bookelfe who compared it to a FF battle)? What's wrong with piling on him, hmmm?

I know it was important to kill of Sylar and Peter before they become uber powerful. Because them being alive wouldn't make Vol. 2 all that fun. And I appreciate the dramatic point of Nathan dying to save New York and being all brotherly and stuff, but it really wasn't necessary. We know Peter can control the Nuclear power  - we found this out two weeks ago), and Claire shooting him wouldn't actually kill him, would it? They just need to let him cool out and dig the bullet out of his brain and that's OK. Oh, and have we forgotten that Peter can fly, so he didn't need to take Nathan with him?

Yeah, not buying that it was the only option. Plus, I was really really hoping that Nathan would save the day with Yellow Crayons. I like yellow crayons.

So yes, dramatically and narratively, yes, OK, nice, even if the family theme was laid on a little too thickly. (I still hold that it wasn't necessarily to give every single character family issues). But it just wasn't well enough thought through.

But it's still awesome. How cool is that?
23rd-May-2007 10:43 am (UTC)
A couple things... yes, Peter should not have stepped in when Niki started pounding on Sylar with the parking meter. I mean, let's face facts here... a normal human hitting someone with a parking meter is going to do some damage, and a super-strength person doing the same... well, all it should have taken is one or two good shots to Sylar's noggin, and it's all over. Death by flattened head, as it were.

However, they've been building up this Peter vs. Sylar thing for a while now, so having Niki finish him off would have a different set of fans screaming about the unfairness of it all.

As for Peter not flying off himself, he looked to be having enough trouble controlling Ted's power... if he had tried to fly at the same time, he might have gone boom immediately. It's kind of why Peter and Sylar are opposite sides of the same coin. Peter can have any power, but he needs to learn how to use them, while Sylar can have any power with rapid mastery, but needs to kill to get them.

Furthermore, don't count Peter and Sylar as dead. For one thing, Ted's power never hurt him, so Peter exploding up in the sky wouldn't have killed him, and neither should the fall, considering he can mimic Claire's power as well. (Plus, I'm guessing Nathan will somehow live too, if for no other explanation then he dropped Peter/Peter made him let go once they were high enough up.)

And Sylar? Real simple. He either crawled into the sewer or something dragged him there. I'm betting on option one. Because, it's real simple. If the villain is dead, but you can't find the body, then the villain's not really dead.
23rd-May-2007 10:46 am (UTC)
Oh sure, they may well not be dead. I'm not counting on either. I want the focus to not be on them next season though. Because too powerful.

But I don't see why Niki and Peter couldn't have punched him up together. They're both superstrength-y, after all.

I'll give you that Peter couldn't control the flying right now, but I stil stay Nathan should have talked him down to not blowing up.
23rd-May-2007 02:39 pm (UTC)
One of my major issues was how Peter sent Nikki back to take care of her family, right? Well, i don't know about you, but if I've got a nasty painful bullet wound, I would NOT want to be dragged around even more, even if it is to see an exploding man in the sky. Seriously, let the man rest, and don't do more damage, right?

I'm pretty sure Nathan is dead. He shouldn't be, cause he should've been like "Oh look, we're high enough now, I'm gonna do my rocket away thing, and you explode, k?"

As to Peter nto switching powers, has he ever used two powers at once? Even when he was going into overload, he was only really using one at a time, right? I dunno.

And is it me, or is Kensei actually Hiros father?
23rd-May-2007 02:41 pm (UTC)
Yes, but D.L. had already been fixed by Mohinder's MAGIC POWERS OF SKYENCE! *grumbles*
23rd-May-2007 02:48 pm (UTC)

I seemed to have missed that one. Hey! Maybe it's Mohinders power! He CAN break the laws of science.
23rd-May-2007 02:49 pm (UTC)
Mohinder's power is to MAKE PSEUDOSCIENCE A REALITY.

Dude. Scarier than Sylar.
23rd-May-2007 02:51 pm (UTC)
It's almost as cool as Hiros dads powers of 'Plot point!"

Oh, and the little 'for porn' thing yer lj does really fit my last post.
23rd-May-2007 02:55 pm (UTC)
Or Mama Petrelli's power of KNOWS ALL, and Papa Devraux's power of KNOWS ALL... IN THE FUTURE
23rd-May-2007 02:56 pm (UTC)
I thought papa deveur dever.. Papa D's power is that he's one bad- Shut yo mouth! But I'm talkin bout papa d. Can you dig it?
23rd-May-2007 02:57 pm (UTC)
23rd-May-2007 03:10 pm (UTC)
No, he's got the power of Science! (exclamation point is actually part of the power name). It's like in the comic books.... a character who is good at one type of science is automagically good at all types of science. For example, Henry Pym (aka Ant-man, Giant-man, Goliath and Yellowjacket) started out as an biochemist, went on to study ants, and went on, out of left field, to design one of the deadliest of robotic enemies in the Marvel Universe - Ultron.

Basically, it lets them do anything tangentially related to science and/or medicine, with a hefty amount of bullshitting.
23rd-May-2007 04:11 pm (UTC)
I am not reading the rest of the post because I am not up on my Heroes yet, but OH MY GOD MOHINDER'S BAD SCIENCE IS SO PAINFUL. I keep wanting to shriek about how fucking hell evolution does not work like that! We know how evolution works and NO IT IS NOT A CONCIOUS OR DELIBERATE PROCESS, JESUS CHRIST! and suchlike. It's difficult. :P
23rd-May-2007 06:57 pm (UTC)


23rd-May-2007 06:03 pm (UTC)
I like that a bunch of them got to take shots at Sylar--that it wasn't just, as Shati termed it "The Peter and Sylar Show". I wish Niki had gotten in a few more hits with the parking meter, though.

There has, in fact, been speculation (in a chat room at Crack O'Clock) that Mohinder has the power of making anything happen so long as he can come up with a scienctific-sounding explanation for it.
23rd-May-2007 06:16 pm (UTC)
*snerk* Jinx, I think.
23rd-May-2007 06:29 pm (UTC)
...That icon is awesome.
23rd-May-2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
*beams* Ain't it just? lienne -- Matilda-mun -- made it after a certain thread.

(Also, Debi's auto-text thingy at the end makes that comment very special.)
23rd-May-2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
Someone -- Shati or Becca, I think, but it might have been John -- was theorizing in chat yesterday that Mohinder does in fact have a power, and it's the power of voiceovers. At least so long as he's unaware of it, he can make the world function according to his bizarre comic book science, either by thinking it does or by voiceovering that it does. Genetics doesn't work like that? Well, no, not in the real world. But when Mohinder's around, it does!

It's a delightful rationalization, I think, even if it doesn't quite work for actual canon.
23rd-May-2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
That was me! :D Yes, they all must take turns. (As, clearly, they cannot be trusted to be clever enough not to get in each other's way otherwise.) Yes, I was giggling.

However, I actually I really like the family issues - maybe just because so many shows put the emphasis so strongly on romantic issues, and I find the overwhelming family emphasis refreshing. It's so nice to have a range of families on a single TV show, and moreover a range of complicated and interesting ones. I'm not saying family is never represented on TV, but usually there's a single central family, and then a bunch of outliers. Heroes has the best range I've seen, and the best record for showing the functionality within the dysfunctionality instead of focusing on OMG PARENTS ARE AWFUL, so I'm pleased with them for it even if they do lay the themes on a bit thickly at times. I totally see how it could be irritating, though.
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