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How to lose the moral high ground #1: Use the bigot route. 
18th-Sep-2007 12:32 pm
pissed off
Tensions were already running high by the time we got on the train at Glasgow.

You see, due to a fatality on the line, our train from Dundee to Glasgow had to be rerouted around Perth, and thus we arrived at Glasgow an hour after we wanted to, thus missing our train to Nodnol. There had been stress and worry and more stress for about four hours straight from the time we heard about the fatality. When we arrived at Queen Street, corchen ran, with luggage, to Central, while the rest of us took a taxi, and Scottish taxi's are ridiculously cheap, and if I had tried to run at my level of anxiety, I would have had an asthma attack. I don't approve of asthma attacks.

So emotions were high when we finally got onto the next (and last) train to London, which is why conversations got intense, and why there was a lot of alcohol. And we involved other people in our conversations, including a very clever Arabic father-of-two who works as a safety inspector on oil platforms, and a South African of the sort of person I also describe mentally as 'Aussie liberal backpackers'. Conversations included Milliways (of course); personal experiences with suicide and divorce; the hotness of Eliza Dushku; Madeline McCann, Jamie Bulger and Sarah Payne; hazeljnutt the pocket lesbian; the sex life of parents; character motivations in Casanova and other such tidbits. So we eventually had a lot of fun, and it may have been fun that was obvious to other people.

I have experienced the annoyance of being around boisterous people (read:stag parties) on a train. I also know that we were trying to be respectable (we may have failed, because when the Millibrits are together, we tend to forget other people exist), and I definitely know that IF ANYONE HAD SAID "hey guys, keep it down?" we would have.

So that is one of the reasons it was so annoying when the 60-something woman who had been semi-galring at us the entire journey, decided to give us a piece of her mind. The real cincher, though, was the phrasing she decided to use.

I didn't notice requiem2adream was upset until I noticed she had left the train suddenly, leaving her bag behind. I later found out it was because the woman had said to another passenger, quite loudly and for us all to hear, It must be nice to be that messed up. A moment later, she had addressed all of us with:

Can I say something? You know, just because you're lesbians, you don't have to rub it in everyone's face. I have plenty of friends who are lesbians and they're nicely discreet about it. You people are being really immature about it. Other people don't want to hear about your sexuality, OK?
And there was probably more. However by that time Lauren had returned, clearly upset, and I chose to hug her instead of listening to more of this homophobic rant.

It left me stressed, angry and utterly depressed all at once. I'm not used to that kind of attack. Had she said 'you were loud, annoying and offensive', I would have been chastised, guilty and worried. As it is, I haven't felt that level of insulted anger and desperate sadness since the last time I cared about Crazy Internet People.

Bitch. 
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18th-Sep-2007 11:30 am (UTC)
... I think it would be entirely appropriate to remove that woman's face with blunt tweezers, one pinch of skin at a time.

And then spray cleaning alcohol on her.

Bitch.
18th-Sep-2007 11:35 am (UTC)
ergh, thats not nice, what's it got to do with her anyway. gets all angry on your behalf. At least your never going to see her again.
18th-Sep-2007 11:35 am (UTC)
Response:

'Why shouldn't I rub my sexuality in your face, when heterosexuality is rubbed in my face every day?'
18th-Sep-2007 12:01 pm (UTC)
I don't mean to be senselessly flippant but am I wrong for having a disturbing mental picture at this point...? ;op
18th-Sep-2007 12:17 pm (UTC)
What a froghumping whore.
18th-Sep-2007 12:24 pm (UTC)
Gah! Gah gah gah gah gah!

What a crappy end to a weekend--yes, some people aren't used to contact with different people the way we are, but still, just no excuse. Plus, remembering how much better London is, and still having problems, just...

In other news

the pocket lesbian

Bwah ha! Someone'll be in trouble when she sees that...

18th-Sep-2007 12:27 pm (UTC)
Also?
http://matgb.livejournal.com/242415.html

For the return of the pirates
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18th-Sep-2007 12:42 pm (UTC)
Considering that none of us were PDAing, and this was just conversation...? Yeah.
18th-Sep-2007 01:32 pm (UTC)
Oh my God, what a stupid cunt.

I'd like to think that I would've retorted cleverly and then turned to the nearest willing female companion and started making out with her just for spite. But I probably would've gaped in shock and disbelief and then gone home and cried, instead.
18th-Sep-2007 04:45 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I was kicking myself for not being able to butt in with logic such as 'what are you upset about, that we're loud, or that some of us are gay? And if you were really that bothered, why did you not say so at the time, or just move?,' but... I was mostly just in disbelief until it was too late.

Grah. She was ignorant and petty, but it just soured what should have been a fun, relaxed trip back after our train issues earlier, you know?
18th-Sep-2007 01:44 pm (UTC)
*sighs*


*HUGS*


Did I tell you about the time some guy on the metro refused to give S his seat? (It's obviously a longer story than that.) It wasn't nearly that obnoxious, and I still remember how angry I was.
18th-Sep-2007 01:51 pm (UTC)
OK, now I'm angry too.

GRAH PEOPLE!
18th-Sep-2007 01:49 pm (UTC)
Oh my god. I'm so sorry.

And also nearly blind with fury, but that's probably a given.
18th-Sep-2007 01:57 pm (UTC)
Oh, focus on the angry. I think we all came out of it OK and have written her off by now. Or will soon, anyway. But thank you.
18th-Sep-2007 02:10 pm (UTC)
Oy. *Hugs* It wasn't too long ago I had similar opinions, but then I actually got to know human beings of the lesbian persuasion and paid more attention to the rampant "HAY GUYS HETERO STUFF!" imagery.

And now I have a girlfriend, so I don't know what the fuck.

But I think I know more what the fuck than that human. Sheez, talk about rude.
18th-Sep-2007 04:17 pm (UTC)
What a bitch! I can't believe she had the nerve to say those things to your face!
18th-Sep-2007 04:48 pm (UTC)
Yes, and she only managed to get that just as we were getting off the train, and she carefully didn't leave right after we walked off, despite being practically the last people on the train. *Eyeroll*
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18th-Sep-2007 05:40 pm (UTC)
*giggles* I <3 you.
18th-Sep-2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
Man. Still, the consoling thought is she's old. She'll be dead soon, and hopefully end up somewhere that happy, slightly drunk lesbians can't bother her delicate sensibilities.
18th-Sep-2007 04:50 pm (UTC)
Oh, she was a good deal older than any of us, which made her emphasis on how immature it was to be open about our respective sexualities just so much more irrelevant. *Facepalm*

Catharsis yay!
18th-Sep-2007 04:53 pm (UTC)
... yeah, the world is still full of insensitive idiots. *snugz* Sorry y'all had to deal with one of them.
18th-Sep-2007 04:56 pm (UTC)
That's just... GAH.

*departs, inarticulately furious*
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