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1st-Apr-2008 03:04 pm
wtf
1) This is an April Fool's joke, implying the Evening Standard think rape is a joke.

2) Nick Erikson of the BNP actually did write the following posts on his blog:

Give Her a Slap!
The truth is that Home Office figures have shown that there is an equal amount of violence perpetrated by men and by women, but the feminist media keep repeating the myth that virtually all domestic violence is men attacking women.
Rape: Lies, Lies, Lies
Women enjoy sex, so this type of 'rape' cannot be such a terrible physical ordeal. To suggest that rape, when conducted without violence, is a serious crime is like suggesting that force feeding a woman chocolate cake is a heinous offence. A woman would be more inconvenienced by having her handbag snatched
He claims to have a point:
"I was trying to make the point that there are two kinds of rape," he said. "There is stranger rape and there is so-called rape by somebody the woman knows. I was raising an important issue in a provocative way to allow people to make up their own minds."
But me, I'm not so sure what that point is.

Thanks to brain_opera for the heads up.
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1st-Apr-2008 02:20 pm (UTC)
Ugh. Not funny.

Penguins FTW.
1st-Apr-2008 02:22 pm (UTC)
I read the first three posts on the blog before my blood pressure got high enough for my brain to spurt out of my eyes.

> Is there any social group more persecuted and oppressed than white, middle class, male drivers?

Enough said.
1st-Apr-2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
Somebody think of the men. They've been oppressed for centuries by Black Widow Spider Women.
1st-Apr-2008 02:27 pm (UTC)
holy crap! I only got a few sentences into the "Rape: Lies, Lies Lies" post before turning away in disgust. Is this guy really even worth serious attention or debate? Sounds to me like he's going for shock value much more than anything else. EW!
1st-Apr-2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
I...don't think I've ever loved the system that blocks my access to Youtube and Facebook more than I do today.
1st-Apr-2008 10:38 pm (UTC)
I can't see it :-(
1st-Apr-2008 03:34 pm (UTC)
He's trying to prove that there really is equal female violence towards men by making all the feminists in the world angry enough to tear his genitals off with their teeth.

Hey, look at that. It's working.
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1st-Apr-2008 03:38 pm (UTC)
Vile. vile vile.

The BNP are a disgusting bunch of fascist thugs masquerading as a political party. It sickens me that people actually vote for them.

The idea that there is anything remotely funny about rape makes my blood boil. There is not more than one kind of rape. Rape is sexual violence against a woman or a man, generally a woman. This kind of bullshit has to be challenged at every single opportunity.

There is no such thing as a "lesser" rape. The person who wrote this crap deserves to be castrated with a blunt rusty axe.
1st-Apr-2008 04:08 pm (UTC)
Anonymouse
labellecarole wrote -


"Vile. vile vile.
The BNP are a disgusting bunch of fascist thugs masquerading as a political party."

first the BNP are not fascist, perhaps you should educate yourself on politics?

"It sickens me that people actually vote for them."

its called democracy, you wouldnt be a pc fascist would you?

"Rape is sexual violence against a woman or a man, generally a woman. This kind of bullshit has to be challenged at every single opportunity."

generally a woman huh, have you any idea of the amount of rape in Prison, often black on white as reports from the USA indicate!
are you also aware of who commits a disproprtionate number of the rapes against women? the enrichers, that the BNP wish to protect you from, but then you wouldnt know that as you are a pc man hating liberal smuck who lets the press do their thinking for them!

"There is no such thing as a "lesser" rape. The person who wrote this crap deserves to be castrated with a blunt rusty axe."

there are degrees of the distress a `rape` may cause, and degrees of consent, to deny such a thing is insanity, castrated with a blunt rusty knife eh? why because the person has a different point of view than you, and you call him vile? people such as yourself are partly to blame for the number of false allegations which destroy thousands of lives of the innocent every year, cost millions and undermine the most serious cases.
(no subject) - Anonymouse - Expand
1st-Apr-2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
The bit about "needing 5%" and "likely"? Only likely if turnout is low.

Which is why it's essential turnout is high, the BNP will motivate their voters, what they've got of them, and scarily a lot of BNP voters do think that way (or don't care about those that do). If they get in, it's because other people didn't bother to vote, not because there are a lot of them.

It's not, unfortunately, a joke. It is someone who needs to be stopped from office, but the more people that know about this the more likely people will turn up to vote for anyone else.
1st-Apr-2008 04:56 pm (UTC) - look at the facts
Anonymouse
you are an idiot, if the turn out is low it is because no one supports the other parties, people would turn out if they had someone worth voting for.
and the BNP supports feel they have such a party.

this is called a democracy,

you seriously underestimate the support the BNP have, Labour recently considered making it a legal obligation to vote, until someone reminded them that this would almost certainly mean a BNP goverment. you see the silent majority actually support the BNP.

here are some figures to help you understand why -

"UN Declaration of Indigenous Rights of Indigenous Peoples
As adopted by the General Assembly on 13th September 2007.

The Declaration establishes a universal framework of minimum standards for the survival, dignity, well-being and rights of the world's indigenous peoples. The Declaration addresses both individual and collective rights; cultural rights and identity; rights to education, health, employment, language, and others. It outlaws discrimination against indigenous peoples and promotes their full and effective participation in all matters that concern them. It also ensures their right to remain distinct and to pursue their own priorities in economic, social and cultural development.

Includes :

Article 7.2 "Indigenous peoples have the collective right to live in freedom, peace and security as distinct peoples"

Article 8.1 "Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture."

Article 8.2 "States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;
(e) Any form of propaganda directed against them

Further as the following shows the Liberal notion of the British population as successive waves of immigrants is simply a BIG LIE

"The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands."

http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=7817


Swiss smell the coffee and wake up!

The nationalist Swiss People's party (SVP), in the governing coalition, has proposed new legislation that would see entire families of immigrants deported if their children are convicted of crimes involving violence, drugs or benefit fraud.
immigrants commit 85.5% of all rapes, 66% of all extortion, 55.5% of all murders and 52.7% of assaults.


racism and crime
99,000 out of 206,000 racist attacks where against white Britons. Ethic minorities make up only 12% of the population but 48% of the racist attacks. They are 6.7 times more likely to commit a hate crime.
in France, 75% of the rape victims are white, 25% non white. 64% of rapists are non-white.
In London, 49% of rapists were black, 13% Asian. While 69% of their victims were white. Almost all the gang rapes were commit by Asians and blacks.


immigrants `not working` figures by country of origin
institute for public policy research 2007

Somalia 81% (muslims)
Turkey 59% (muslims - EU membership endorsed by Labour)
Bangladesh 56% (muslims)
Pakistan 55% (muslims)
Iran 48% (muslims)
Cyprus 32% (EU)
Jamaica 31%
China 31%
Portugal 30% (EU)
Poland 15% (EU)
Austrailia 11%

SKY poll 2006
Do the BNP have a place in British politics?
85% voted yes
15% voted no
Overwhelming support for the BNP to play a part
in politics from the public.

british young muslim,
Policy Exchange thinktank poll 2007

37% of 16 to 24-year-olds would prefer living under Sharia law than British law

74% of 16 to 24-year-olds prefer Muslim women to choose to wear the hijab-isolate themselfs from the host nation.

13% of 16 to 24-year-olds admire organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to FIGHT the West

33% of 16 to 24-year-olds believed that those converting to another
religion should be EXECUTED
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(no subject) - Anonymouse - Expand
1st-Apr-2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
Looks like "anonymouse" is a fascist.

Look, shitbag, I don't like your sort of politics and I don't care who knows it.

You and the people you support are scum.

I don't give a toss about your opinions and I have no interest in your arguments.

I marched against scum like you back in the 1970s and I'll march again if necessary.

You can f*ck off from here.
1st-Apr-2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
My sympathies for your troll infestation.

So, for one thing, there's the obvious. (Not funny as a joke, and probably not a joke for the reason that these ideas are often taken seriously in the national discourse, horrifically enough; as such, for the same reason that you wouldn't post "Black people = lazy" or "I think we should immediately attack Iran" as an April Fools' Day joke, these are probably "serious" posts. At least seriously intended.)

What gets me is the guy saying he's trying to raise an important issue in a provocative yadda yadda yadda...

Not because it's plainly stupid, but because it's not a new argument. He's not raising a "provocative issue"; he's alluding to foolishness that's been raised, debunked, raised again, debunked again, put in the mouths of fictional characters to show their chauvanism, probably used as a tattoo, printed on newspaper used to wrap up fish and chips, and finally left to an elderly relative who says that after we die there's going to be a planet for a French and a planet for the Chinese and we're all going to be a lot happier.

At least say that rape isn't a crime because, I dunno, society has constantly been accepting of rape in some form or another (bride prices, The Fountainhead, FATAL...) and as such it's an important part of society, not to be criminalised. That's still an infernally stupid argument, but at least it's a new infernally stupid argument.

Saying "HEY GUYS I'VE HAD THIS BRAND NEW IDEA THAT CHAUVINISTS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN CHUCKIN' AROUND FOR LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ALIVE" means you don't only fail as an enlightened human being, you even fail as a retrograde troll caveman. It's even disappointing for mockery purposes.

And while this is massively hypocritical of me, after having a whole spiel on originality, I must address Mr. Erikson with the standard, overused quote... "I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

(Also, while not by any means on the same scale as rape, force-feeding a woman chocolate cake would be assault. She plainly doesn't want chocolate cake at this time, you'd need to keep her in one place, most methods of force-feeding often cause minor to major injuries - hence the "force", it symbolically takes the choice of feeding herself away from her, and if she's lactose intolerant or even just full you run the risk of making her very sick. So, Mr. Erikson, your very bad and stupid analogy also shoots you in the foot. See above RE: no points, mercy.)
1st-Apr-2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
(Also, while not by any means on the same scale as rape, force-feeding a woman chocolate cake would be assault. She plainly doesn't want chocolate cake at this time, you'd need to keep her in one place, most methods of force-feeding often cause minor to major injuries - hence the "force", it symbolically takes the choice of feeding herself away from her, and if she's lactose intolerant or even just full you run the risk of making her very sick. So, Mr. Erikson, your very bad and stupid analogy also shoots you in the foot. See above RE: no points, mercy.)

See, yeah, that's what I was going to say.

But then, force-feeding hits a squick button of mine that I'm aware isn't universally shared.
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