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28th-Oct-2008 12:15 pm
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The following contains twittering:

  • 12:33 is beginning to learn why so many feminists hate evolutionary psychology. #
  • 13:45 should probably be relieved LJ is doing it again. *takes cleansing breaths* #
  • 13:56 wonders why SUP thought returning to 6A's holiday-crashing ways was a good idea. #
  • 14:44 and it's back. #
  • 20:29 "10 minutes preparation time" my arse #
  • 20:42 has acheived PIE #
  • 21:32 likes this GMT thing. Weaves is up early! #
  • 23:47 why am I still awake? #
  • 09:00 why do you hate me, Firefox? #
  • 09:50 has finally tagged up, but now everyone is asleep. #
  • 11:59 why do I have so many German-language version of West End songs? #

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28th-Oct-2008 12:35 pm (UTC)
is beginning to learn why so many feminists hate evolutionary psychology

28th-Oct-2008 12:53 pm (UTC)
Indeed sexual jealousy is a far larger motivator in men then it is in women in general (The majority of battered women cases and spouse/ex-spouse murder are results of sexual jealousy for instance.).


Kill it with fire. D:
28th-Oct-2008 12:54 pm (UTC)
I did science to it and it hid.

"Meme Theory is Lamarckian" indeed.
28th-Oct-2008 01:04 pm (UTC)
Robin found that quote and just laid into him.

I'd also love to know who the misogynistic anony-git is on one of Jennie's later posts.
28th-Oct-2008 01:01 pm (UTC)
I need to find that passage in "a Guinea Pig's History of Biology" where an ev psych (I think it was Desmond Morriss) insists that men who are strong and territorial mate with the most females. He was really adamant about it. Like "end of" adamant. His "proof" was he had observed this behaviour in gorillas.

Until female scientists discovered that while the male gorillas were busy defending their territory, the female gorillas were mating with the lesser males behind their back. lulz.
28th-Oct-2008 01:03 pm (UTC)

28th-Oct-2008 01:12 pm (UTC)
But Debi! We MUST take him seriously, he was in Playboy and everything! And he's a MAN.
28th-Oct-2008 01:14 pm (UTC)

Wow, Playboy is really desperate for new bunnies.
28th-Oct-2008 01:17 pm (UTC)
haha. Obviously he was touting his gorilla theory further in there.

Oh god, that brings to mind even worse images, doesn't it? XD
28th-Oct-2008 01:18 pm (UTC)
I hate you, Gina.
28th-Oct-2008 01:20 pm (UTC)

edit: I can't tell when people are joking or not very easily.

Edited at 2008-10-28 13:33 (UTC)
28th-Oct-2008 01:41 pm (UTC)

Edited at 2008-10-28 13:42 (UTC)
28th-Oct-2008 01:42 pm (UTC)
ah cool. "hate" away, then. ;)

28th-Oct-2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
ZOMG! I'm probably going to do my Master's thesis on paternity in territorial harbor seals, to see how big of a role sneaker males play! :D
28th-Oct-2008 07:03 pm (UTC)
The sneaky lesser male gets around a lot in the natural world.

*tries to resist making jokes about how Nice Guys(tm) finish last*
28th-Oct-2008 01:35 pm (UTC)
geneticists should hate it tooo. It is TOSH.
28th-Oct-2008 01:41 pm (UTC)
And yet and yet and yet it could be so interesting! Why must it be abused so?
28th-Oct-2008 02:04 pm (UTC)
I think the problem is the general lack of proof. It could be fascinating, but but but it's all speculation. I want to understand why we do things... Can we turn it's power to good?
28th-Oct-2008 02:07 pm (UTC)
It's the actual evidence I care about, and I'm sure it's there: I've seen it in studies and crap. It's the horrid speculation that happens around it.

The only way to fix it that I can think of is to deconstruct all of it and sort the wheat from the chaffe, and I don't want to do that.
28th-Oct-2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
I agree, about the speculation. The vast majority of predictions made by evpsych are un-testable. There's so much diversity among historical hunter-gatherer societies, yet evpsych insists on assuming that all prehistoric humans must have lived in this homogeneous, stereotypical "men hunt, women sit around doing the prehistoric equivalent of watching Oprah" social organization. The solution would be to start making better predictions but that would require kicking out all the misogynists, plus shutting up all the armchair psychologists* on the internet who have zero science background, and I don't see that happening any time soon.

* lol, I mistyped that as "phycologists." Although people who know nothing about science shouldn't talk about the biology of seaweed either.
28th-Oct-2008 01:50 pm (UTC)
The comments in this post make me happy.

Fuck evolutionary psychology. Well, rather, fuck the folks that abuse it with stupidity. I suppose it's not its fault it's attracted jerks.
28th-Oct-2008 01:55 pm (UTC)
See, I had no idea it had attracted jerks. Here's me being all- "well, humans are animals, and evolution happens, and memes are obvs subject to the same selection pressures as genes, what's the problem?"

And then I tried to engage with one.
28th-Oct-2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I had the same thing. It's like, "This COULD be a really awesome discipline, but unfortunately y'all have kind of crapped up the signal-to-noise with your IDIOCY." >:I

*Sigh* Humans.
28th-Oct-2008 01:52 pm (UTC)
50 billion twitter posts. Weird.
28th-Oct-2008 01:53 pm (UTC)
*bursts into tears* MAKE IT STOP, MAT!!
28th-Oct-2008 06:31 pm (UTC)
re. 12:33: Is it because of this?

Then again, this being the internet, you see shit like that all over the place, so I guess the odds of you seeing the same evopsych bullcrap as I did are actually kind of low.

What gets me even more is how people use the feminist reaction to it as an excuse to accuse feminists of being anti-science. Right, there's no overlap between "feminists" and "scientists," none at all. >:(
28th-Oct-2008 06:39 pm (UTC)
No, I linked to it elsewhere in the comments.

And ne fule no that women can't do science! Their brains can't handle it!
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